Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? I expect she will admit it one day. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. And this doesnt apply to your opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. They dont need to make money??? This time, not surprisingly, the FBI did achieve a match. She failed miserably to convince me, or anyone else who mattered, of her innocence.. Cops under pressure will lie to close a case. However, my curiosity is piqued as to why Andrews mother didnt report the missing daughter in law, Joanne and her own grandson Alex! The authorities charged her with two counts of murder. You, however seem to have no problem with these hurtful and damaging comments aimed at Rorrer. Are you even aware there are judges, eminent writers, lawyers and TV personalities and countless other ordinary people all of whom steadfastly support her as being innocent and wrongly convicted. See Commonwealth v. Rorrer, CP-39- CR-0002176-1997 (C.C.P. And while youre on that list, you can be happy in the knowledge youre not in rarefied company. Thus Im confident shes the perp probably mentally disturbed at the time (the thought of her rationally, coolly killing her babies is too horrible), though probably not to the standard for criminal mitigation. Theres a similar air of confusion connected to the Scott Peterson debacle. This response of yours neatly sums up your dogmatic view of her guilt despite so much evidence to the contrary. It fails to mention the car was totally clean of any other forensic residue. Suzanne Pearson fabricated quotes from Patricia including her claim that Patricia said, Im going to the electric chair upon her arrest because a conviction would boost Pearsons career. According to court papers from Patricia 2017 appeal, DNA on the cigarette butt found near the two bodies belonged to Appellant. (Prosecutor Michael McIntyre, however, told ForensicFilesNow.com that that the cigarette butt was never actually tested). ), The Wrong Man investigators Ira Todd and Joe Kennedy have some theories of their own. She should have been treated exactly the way she treated that mother and baby, taken out into the woods, shot, beaten and then left to die. The difference was made by the investigation, Interpol has some good detectives who do not play with peoples freedom and who do not use American techniques such as pictures, lets compare hair color after pictures bullshit, not even with the performance of todays cameras such a thing is not allowed, the issue of dismantling the alibi only with indirect evidence, like that her name was not in the notebook, a European court would withdrew it immediately, you cant go with a thing like this, its called inconclusive proof, even the fact that one of the witnesses said that the business was not opened where she said it was that day, its inconclusive, the accused can say that he/she forgot, was there and left, and his alibi I dont know how it was verified, but what should been verified first were the contacts between him and her, if he contacted her before that, if she had been contacted from public phone for example before the murder, how many times, when etc, if he was near the places where she was until the murder, things like that. Several instances of malpractice, along with revelations have emerged since her incarceration namely, failing to forensically examine significant items of evidence items which would have seriously compromised their case had they been examined and failing to advise Rorrers Defence of witnesses who were prepared to testify on her behalf. . But hang on You ask that I show care with my wording and show all the tolerance in the world, and by that you presumably mean I should simply ignore those who villify her in the most disgraceful way, probably in the opinion that all readers of their comments will agree, and no one is going to take offence! Rest in peace Joann and Alex. Very soon after, the original hairs (in glass slides) were sent to the FBI again. You are absolutely right. Four months after Joanns disappearance, farmer Paul Kovalchik reported seeing what at first looked like a pile of clothes on his land in Heidelberg Township woods, about 15 miles from the Katrinaks house. I THINK THEY SHOULD REOPEN THIS CASE AND LOOK AT THE HUSBAND JUST SAYING BUT IN MY HEART AND MIND FROM READING ALL THE NOTES AND STUFF PATRICA IS NOT GUILTY AND THEY NEED TO SET HER FREE. If documentaries are, as you claim, biased against Rorrer, the obvious question is why. in tandem with no evidence of home invasion. But Patricia had moved from Pennsylvania years ago, and she'd started her own family in North Carolina. But to settle for just anyone being the offender offers no justice to the victims and certainly does no merit to those who are woefully lacking in ALL the details of this case, but nevertheless feel the need to vent their spleen on an innocent person. Sadly, those who defend Rorrer do not want to be confused by the truth. And Andrews explanation of how the intruder got in through the basement door seemed contrived, according to Grube, who gave an interview to Wrong Man, a 2020 true-crime docuseries from the Starz network, which produced two episodes called The Hang Up about the Rorrer case. Rorrer v. Nicholas, Civil Action 19-cv-01398-GEKP - Casetext After Joann Katrinak, the wife of Patricias former flame, turned up dead along with her infant son, prosecutors suspected Patricia. They moved into her house in Salisbury County, staying together for about two years. I hope and pray the cops and the husband will finally do the right thing. But because there is no author of this page, I would like you to contact me on the Free Patricia Rorrer facebook page. No way for 4 months, that deceased baby would still be resting across the mothers chest. Pat will spend the rest of her natural life in prison where people like her belong. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory. How about the mix up with the hair and the fact that it was not forensically tested (outside of the one man who compared the hairs through naked eye). What has that to do with the point youre trying to make? Which, for this very reason, is at present being investigated by a federal judge? She was bubbly and likable, not disgruntled, according to friend Kathy Barber, who visited her friend in jail. simply to create an atmosphere of hatred towards a person who, in all probability, has been wrongfully imprisoned. His hair (back in 94-95) was dirty blonde and roughly 8 inches long. Although the prosecution used it as evidence that she was trying to create a false alibi, it actually sounded more like Patricia was simply trying to nail down the facts he had already asserted to her. Detective Barry Grube found it odd that Andrew fixed the severed phone line before police examined it in essence tampering with evidence. Not gender neutral. I can't believe this bitch has a whole internet community rallying for her; have they SEEN the evidence? Clifford Freeman, were you a juror? I have not SEEN this report that says no root found is there a picture of it online somewhere? Pal stays true. Stop defending her when she is guilty!!!!! and there are probably many people who still think he is innocent too. Once, when a gun-wielding farmer and his buddy caught Patricia and Gary riding motorcycles on his field, Patricia walked up and got in their faces and argued, Gary recalled to the Morning Call. When she stood trial that same year, she maintained her innocence and alleged that she and Andrew Katrinak had continued to stay in touch as good friends, so she wouldn't do anything to hurt him. Patricia and her husband broke up after the babys death. Both were deceased. She was always looking for a fight, Gary Gabard told the Morning Call, which noted that he was a head shorter than Patricia. And the obvious answer is not as you claim. State: Oklahoma. It seems so, according to you. Police couldnt determine whether the baby died of exposure or suffocation. Lawyer: New evidence in 1994 killings of woman, infant Did they ever determine cause of death in the baby? Joanne didnt go missing until December 15, an entire week and a day later. Its true that women were more idiots than about men, they had the impression that if they caught a fool to take them as wives, they would settle for life, even today we see that but more diluted, still an exaggerated reason for murder. She just stayed in touch with everybody, Kathy Barber said in her interview on NBCs Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports in 2017. Ten months after Joann died he murdered another woman (who looks just like her) and her baby, as well. They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. Im a hunter and in the spring I have found many dead deer that died from starvation or other reasons and the bodies are untouched. The organization purports that if there were awards for distorted reporting, the Morning Callwould win high honors.. As I stated previously, if she cannot speak for herself, Im happy to step up on her behalf. Did you personally attend the trial? This information was never revealed to Rorrers defence. I hope she suffers and goes insane from loneliness. Agree with all you say but theres so much more involving incompetence, corruption, evidence tampering and then witnesses, in Rorrers favour, who were not disclosed to her defence her trial (something they were legally obliged to do). Im trying to understand exactly your reasoning asking me staying away from this site because of my insulting remarks! At the states request, the instructor wore a wire during a phone conversation with Patricia. I also communicated with Patricia via email to get her input on some matters. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. Advocates for her innocence complain of hype surrounding the case. 51min. There appears to be evidence of her disturbed thinking shortly prior to the event (inc her stating she knows who the perp was shortly after but would not identify because its her?) Theres speculation and theres lies period. After . Its totally irrelevant. They broke up in 1993. The article also notes that most inmates earn around 19 cent an hour at their jobs and must pay $5 each time they need medical attention or medicine. All the sources said the same thing either exposure or suffocation, but no certainty about which one. Testimony from Walter Blalock contradicted Patricias claim that she never had a gun. Traupman died in 2016. How about the two eyewitnesses that identified her alive days after her disappearance. It might have said no root but could have been wrong. That poor child who grew up with no mom for absolutely no reason. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. I would have liked better her being put to death! Ms. After relocating to Pennsylvania, Patricia met the 6-foot-2-inch Andrew in a restaurant. A correction to the comment above. Deal refused. Locked up. I want to keep the tons of old jewelry but Im perplexed. Lets stop pretending we can definitively prove this woman murdered this woman and her child. There is no justice for your loved ones when the wrong person is paying for the crime. Sorry ladiesher hair was in the car and at the scene.she murdered them. Lie detectors are pseudo science. They also think she killed her first hubby Larry Ford as well. Book her. The only thing that has changed since this case is the ability of people to access and proclaim crackpot ideas, conspiracies, and all the rest. Pat had a string of bad relationships in her past and was not happy. I would think if she would have an passed they definitely wouldve started looking somewhere else but there was just too much evidence against her anyway so.. and with forensics the way they are today. Shes still guilty, with her hands did it or not, in regard to baby Alex. Men who murder are conventional, women are sensational, posits the Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Network. This is untrue. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. neither her nor there couldnt be linked to her. For goodness sake, it was never proved at her trial she used the gun the police so steadfastly offered as evidence or for that matter, ANY OTHER GUN. Im quite happy to accept that ANYONE who makes a TV documentary makes it for money. More than 20 years after her conviction, Patricia Rorrer still has advocates working to exonerate her. She would also have no heart when it comes to children, not even her own. The police considered the possibility that Joann ran away, a theory disputed by her family. Find out more Our Mission Patricia's Story Our Mission Is to get Patricia a fair trial that will prove her innocence, and give justice to Joann and Alex who died a horrific death. Patricias defenders also say Andrew Katrinak staged the scene at his house by prying the door and cutting the phone line. Oh, and she was so obsessed with him that she started dating and found herself a boyfriend that was not only younger, but much more attractive than Andy? She hasnt, she didnt get a hard enough sentence. Im new to the case, but there seems to be a lot of reasonable doubt. While most of the documentaries come out as reinforcing her guilt, albeit most of them giving differing accounts of the speculation which was presented at her trial, some going even further by showing scenes that were offered as theories at her trial, as FACT. The person who killed Joann is currently serving a life sentence because 10 months after Joann and Alex died, he killed another woman (who bore a striking resemblance to Joann) and her baby. I dont think she was ever scared until we put the cuffs on her.. 6-10. What time will shops open on Sunday 27th Dec 2020 Police identified the pair as Joann and Alex Katrinak. Trip report, Helsinki June 13th 2020 - Helsinki Forum - Tripadvisor I noticed that her defense lawyer and others advocating for her is not mentioning more about the gun. DNA tests proved the blonde hairs were hers. The Common Sense Guy you should put yourself on top of the list of deluded people. Until next time, cheers. Andrew also stated that when Pat called and Joann answered she had instructed her not to call again because they were married and they were happy. As for Joanns parents, her father died a year after the murder. Meanwhile, the case of the missing mother and baby turned into colossal news across the U.S. and internationally. A documentary on Youtube Judges for Justice shows a clear case of evidence tampering with regard to the hair. The fact that previous boyfriends noted her obsession with Andrew is very, very telling. As for an epilogue on ex-flame Andrew Katrinak, he has moved to Colorado and kept a low profile since the trial ended. Phone records dont lie.) She said that shes no fan of Forensic Files and that the show had many misrepresentations about her case and that shed heard ForensicFilesNow.com mixed up some facts as well. The Facts Case Type: Crime Watch Wrong Man season 2, and then come back and make comment. On Alexs diaper bag, police found strands of the same type of hair from the car. What the prosecution failed to disclose to Rorrers defence team was that the cops, in their zeal to prove their gun theory, visited several addresses of which Rorrer was resident, dug up the gardens in which she was known to do target practice recovered several shell casings and bullets (more than 70), had them ballistically tested, but NOT ONE was found to be a match to the bullet recovered from the victim. Creating your profile on CaseMine allows you to build your network with fellow lawyers and prospective clients. Your comment could not be farther than the truth! The Free Patricia Rorrer page responds to comments from supporters (How is this even possible that this woman is still in jail?!? She killed Joann, had a fair and impartial trial, so its time to get over it. Sure theres DNA, but if she truly is innocent then why not advocate to find the gun. You say by definition! However, while sticking solely to the Rorrer case, the issue of the husbands alibi is very much open to doubt if one takes into consideration what the documentary, STARZ-The Wrong Man (in two parts) has revealed. Convenient Suspect: A Wrongful Conviction In The Murder In Lehigh
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